- Harper: 'The people of Canada have a different philosophy than us' -continued

Posted: 4/22/2010 12:57:37 PM The Globe and Mail - see below

I don't recall Harper, Van Loan, Day, Toews, Baird or any other of the inner circle suggesting that this is not a whipped vote.

The reason is obvious.

To suggest that it is not, would be the height of hypocrisy and another example of Harper and the Con's deception at its worst.

Every knows that the Con MP's don't turn around to go p... without Harper's permission and one of Harper's peóns (excuse the pun) watching and taking note (although they seemed to have fallen down on the job with Jaffer and Guergis). What Con MP would dare vote against Harper on anything.

In fact when you take a look at the vicious personal attacks on those than might stand up to oppose, Harper and the Con's have taken 'whipped vote' to new heights - not just the Con MP's, but he is trying to whip the die-hard Con supporters into a frenzy and trying to 'whip' (figuratively) his opponents in the media for being bad boys and girls.

"smothering democracy" is the hallmark of the Harper administration.

So, don't suggest to me that it is not a "whipped" vote for Harper or that Harper is not smothering democracy, I've simply been around too long to be taken in by that one.

Lloyd MacILquham cicblog.com/comments.html

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4/23/2010 10:45:10 AM PM The Globe and Mail - see below

[redacted] writes 4/22/2010 8:07:59 PM:
"Loyd writes . . .

I don't recall Harper . . . suggesting that this is not a whipped vote.

well of COURSE you don't. All votes are free votes, unless specifically made to be whipped votes by declaration."

Apparently that's not your real name.

If you have such a strong conviction in the morality of your opinion then why an alias.

Also, it's "Lloyd"

All Con MP's are whipped by Harper. This 'whipping' must be overtly removed before Con MP's would dare vote their conscience.

This is very well know and undisputed. Just today there is are article discussing this very point:

"The same plums-and-pain management technique has turned the prime minister's caucus into craven courtiers, vigorously bowing and scraping in hopes of entry to the bloated cabinet -- whose members vigorously bow and scrape to avoid removal. But even if they had some pride, it would not matter. The caucus cannot change the party's leadership, and so, like beaten dogs, they have no choice but to lick"

(
"The man who would be king", Dan Gardner, The Ottawa Citizen, April 23, 2010
http://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/would+king/2941101/story.html
)


[redacted] suggests: "cpc is far more democratic"

When it started the Reform Party was a grass roots party.

But, Harper and the Con's are no longer a grass roots party.

It is very much a top-down tyranny, where Harper has deliberately abandoned core conservative values in order to cling onto power. If he tried to openly promote these right wing, extremist, intolerant values, Canadians would boot him out of office. Harper is very much aware of this.

This Bill is a prime example. Harper would not introduce it as part of the Con policies, so, in his deceptive fashion, had it released as a private member's bill. Another recent example is the International family health policy re family planning and abortion.

True conservatives know this and are starting to do something about it. How about you, you seem like a true conservative.

Lloyd MacILquham cicblog.com/comments.html